Lochee Road and Logie Street – road resurfacing #dundeewestend

From the City Council :

Lochee Road (No 70 Logie Street to No 200 Lochee Road) – Carriageway Resurfacing Work

I wish to notify you that work is programmed to commence at the above location on Monday 8 July 2019 and will last for approximately 2 weeks. The contractor for the works is Tayside Contracts.
In the interest of public safety, a road closure will be implemented and through traffic will be diverted via City Road, Tullideph Road and reverse.
On-street parking will not be allowed on the section of carriageway being worked on. Vehicular access to properties with driveways will be maintained although we ask for vehicular traffic movements to be kept to a minimum and advise delays may be experienced.
Please note that pedestrian thoroughfare will be maintained throughout the works.
Bus services will be affected by this closure and I would advise bus passengers to visit www.dundeetravelinfo.com, or telephone the bus operator for further details of diversion routes and alternative bus stops.
Please accept our apologies for any disruption these works may cause.   I am sure that you will understand that major road maintenance work is unavoidable and necessitates a degree of inconvenience to road users. 
If you have any queries regarding this matter please call 834126.

Temporary Traffic Order – Logie Street and Lochee Road Area – and bus information

From the City Council :
Dundee City Council proposes to make an Order under Section 14(1) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 for the purpose of facilitating Scottish Water mains renewal works.  The Order is expected to be in force for 8 weeks from 29 August 2016.  Its maximum duration in terms of the Act is eighteen months.
The effect of the Order is to prohibit temporarily all vehicular traffic in (1) Logie Street southbound between Loons Road and City Road, (2) Lochee Road: Phase 1 – southbound between Tullideph Road and Dudhope Terrace and Phase 2 – southbound between Dudhope Terrace and Park Street, (3) Rankine Street between Lochee Road and Inverary Terrace, (4) Cleghorn Street between Lochee Road and Benvie Road, (5) Muirton Road between Old Muirton Road and Logie Street, (6) Lower Pleasance between Lochee Road and Brewery Lane and (7) Gardners Lane at its junction with Lochee Road.
More than one road may be closed at any one time.  The one-way order relating to Muirton Road (Old Muirton Road to Lochee Road) will be rescinded for the duration of the works.
Alternative routes will be available via (1) Loons Road/Gardner Street/Rankine Street, (2) Phase 1 – Tullideph Road/City Road/Milnbank Road/Polepark Road and Phase 2 – Dudhope Terrace/Infirmary Brae/Barrack Road/Constitution Road/North Marketgait/Ladywell Roundabout/North Marketgait, (3) Lochee Road/Logie Street/Loons Road/Gardner Street, (4) Benvie Road/Fyffe Street/Polepark Road/Lochee Road, (5) Muirton Road/Ancrum Road/Logie Street, (6) Lochee Road/Polepark Road/Brewery Lane and (7) Lochee Road/Dudhope Terrace/St Mary Place/St Mary Street.
Any queries regarding this proposal, please contact the Network Management Team, City Development Department on 433082.
Bus detour information from Xplore Dundee :
Logie Street closure (city bound) – 29 August for 2 weeks (The road closure is southward (city centre bound) only) –
Services 9/10 (Outer Circle)
No diversion necessary.
Service 23 (from Lochee, towards City Centre)
Normal route to Lochee High Street, then via Loons Road, Gardner Street, Rankine Street, crossing Lochee Road to Cleghorn Street, then via City Road, Pentland Avenue and then normal route.
Services 23a & 28/29 (from Lochee, towards City Centre)
Normal routes to Lochee High Street, then via Loons Road, Gardner Street, Rankine Street, Lochee Road and then normal route.

Lighting on path – Logie Street to Tullideph Street/Place

Residents in the Tullideph area recently raised with me the poor lighting on the pathway from Logie Street to the Tullideph Street/Place junction.   This is a very well-used path as it provides the main route on foot from Tullideph to catching a bus on Logie Street.   Many of the path users are elderly, living in the Tullideph Sheltered Housing.
I contacted the council’s Street Lighting Partnership Manager about the lighting situation and she sent me a very helpful response as follows :
“I have had a look at the path in question and can understand the concerns that have been raised.  I will add a small capital scheme for additional lighting into next years programme.   Unfortunately we are fully committed both in terms of finance and workload for the current financial year.
In the meantime, may I suggest that the tree in the middle of the path be cut back? this may help to make the path a little more visible.”
On the overgrown tree aspect, the Assistant Forestry Officer has also responded positively :
“I have inspected the mature maple tree next to the footway leading to Logie Street.    I will arrange to crown lift, crown balance, crown thin and prune this tree … I will include this work in our current winter schedule and the works will be completed prior to any street lighting improvement works.”

Gettings things done … Ancrum Road/Logie Street

A resident recently asked me :
“… any idea when the cycle lane/advanced stop box will return to the Ancrum Road/Logie Street lights?”
I asked the City Council and received the following positive response :
“Unfortunately these road markings were not replaced when the Logie Street carriageway was resurfaced.
The Roads Maintenance Partnership has been advised of this and will make arrangements for these outstanding road markings to be replaced.”


City Road/Logie Street – road works complete

Further to my recent update about the road resurfacing and yellow box/lining painting at the junction of City Road and Logie Street, I am pleased to advise that the works were being completed at the start of this week – see right.
Having long-since requested the repainting of the yellow box markings here at the request of local residents, I am pleased this work has now been undertaken.

City Road/Logie Street – road works

Please see Public Notice below from the City Council regarding work commencing this morning.
The council’s Road Maintenance Partnership has advised me that, “City Road/Logie Street junction is to be closed to allow the junction to be resurfaced.  This will require City Road to be closed from its junction with Tullideph Road.”     
In addition to the better road surface, the good news is that this will finally allow for the repainting of the yellow box markings at the junction to be undertaken – something I have been requesting on behalf of residents for some time.
THE DUNDEE CITY COUNCIL AS TRAFFIC AUTHORITY being satisfied that traffic on the road should be prohibited by reason of carriageway patching works being carried out HEREBY PROHIBIT the driving of any vehicle in:
1.   City Road (from Tullideph Place to Logie Street), Dundee.
2.   Ancrum Road (eastbound from Tullideph Road to Logie Street), Dundee
This notice comes into effect on Monday 25 February 2013 for 5 working days.
Pedestrian thoroughfare will be maintained.
Alternative routes for vehicles are available via Logie Street/Tullideph Road.
For further information contact 433168.
Director of City Development
Dundee City Council

Getting this done … lining works across the West End

On behalf of constituents, I recently raised the need to have white lining renewed at several locations across the West End:
* Junction of Saggar Street with City Road :   The council has responded – “The Road Maintenance Partnership inspector has advised that these junction lines were re-done 17-1-13.”
* Give way lines at the junction of Perth Road at Riverside Drive (north of the Botanic Garden) :   The council has now advised – “For information, the Road Maintenance Partnership inspector has advised that these give way lines on Perth Road at the junction of Riverside Drive have now been re-painted.”
* Junction lining of both Abbotsford Street and Abbotsford Place with Peddie Street :    The council has responded – “The Road Maintenance Partnership inspector has included the worn junction lining in Abbotsford Place and Street in the next lining order and this will be done weather permitting as soon as resources are available and previously identified priorities have been dealt with.”
I also queried with the City Council’s Road Maintenance Partnership why the promised yellow box relining at the junction of Logie Street with City Road has still not been carried out.     The response is as follows and hopefully means this lengthy delay in having the yellow box repainted is coming to an end:
“The proposed patching to be done at the City Road/ Logie Street was further delayed because of planned works on Ancrum Road by Scottish Water. These works have now been carried out and the carriageway patching and subsequent re-lining of these junctions, is provisionally programmed for early February 2013.”

West End Local Community Planning Partnership meeting

Last night, after my ward surgery at Blackness Primary School, I took part in the latest meeting of the  West End Local Community Planning Partnership (LCPP), which allows local councillors, council officers across various departments, police, fire & rescue, NHS and local community organisations to get together to discuss West End issues.   On this occasion, the City Council Chief Executive attended part of the meeting, which was a welcome development.
We were given an update about progress with the proposed new Dundee Local Development Plan from a senior officer from the council’s City Development Department.   I again highlighted the issues of derelict buildings and the need to support our district shopping centres.
The LCPP meeting also had a welcome update from the Environment Department about proposed improvements in parts of the West End that include:

  • Improvements to the pathway from Logie Street to the Tullideph sheltered housing.
  • New hedge planting to replace the “temporary” fence at the east end of Magdalen Green.   I requested the “temporary” fence on behalf of residents the best part of a decade ago, so some nicer hedging will be a welcome development.
  • Scott Street entrance to Balgay Park – I have complained about its state before and was pleased to hear it will be improved and brightened up.
  • Hunter Street – roundabout with Hawkhill by-pass – to be tidied, improved with new planting and birch trees.
  • The old toilet block at Lochee Park will be removed and replaced with new toilets at the Lochee Park changing rooms.

Concern over lack of safety markings

I have voiced concern at the continued lack of road safety markings at the very busy Logie Street/City Road junction.   The junction used to have a “yellow box” painted at the junction to allow throughput of vehicles turning right from Logie Street into City Road and to assist road safety, but these have worn away and I have requested the City Council tackles the issue as soon as possible given the heavy vehicle use of this junction.
I have raised the matter several times with the City Council’s Roads Maintenance Partnership since March of this year and have now asked the council to take action as a matter of urgency.
The Roads Maintenance Partnership has updated me as follows:
“I apologise that the works have not been carried out as yet.
We initially delayed because of works Scotland Gas Networks were carrying out, and our desire to patch the carriageway prior to replacing the box marking.  However this delay has allowed us to look again at this junction as the condition of the existing surfacing has further deteriorated.  
We have developed a further 3 options for extensive resurfacing as an alternative to localised rhino patching.  This will be subject to conformation of available budget.  Funding will be discussed and confirmed at the Divisional revenue monitoring meeting which takes place towards the end of this month.”

Retro Dundee – the West End

It was with some sadness that, last December, the rather fabulous Retro Dundee blog ended, after three or more years of brilliant articles, pictures and videos of Dundee through the 1960s, 70s and 80s.
Over the next few days, I’ll feature some of its items about the West End and I start with a photograph of Logie Street as it existed in the late 1960s/early 1970s.   Much of this part of Logie Street (West End Ward is on the south side only) no longer exists but the Logie Bar and adjacent tenement is still there:

Getting things done – Lochee Road/Logie Street

Back in March, I raised with the City Council the fact that the ‘yellow box’ markings at the Logie Street/Lochee Road junction were extremely worn.     I was promised repainting but this was delayed due to gas main replacement works on Lochee Road during June.

The Dundee City Council and Tayside Contracts Roads Maintenance Partnership has now updated me as follows:

“Rhino patching works are currently programmed for week commencing 13th August with the road marking works to follow.”

Traffic Order : Lochee Road/Logie Street

From Dundee City Council :

Dundee City Council proposes to make an Order under Section 14(1) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 for the purpose of facilitating gas main replacement works.  The Order is expected to be in force for five weeks from 28 May 2012.  Its maximum duration in terms of the Act is eighteen months.

The effect of the Order is to prohibit temporarily all vehicular traffic in Lochee Road/Logie Street northbound from Tullideph Road to City Road.

Pedestrian thoroughfare and vehicular access to premises will be maintained where possible.

An alternative route will be available via Tullideph Road and City Road.

Please forward any comments you may have regarding this proposal to the Network Management Team, City Development Department, Dundee House, 50 North Lindsay Street, Dundee  DD1 1LS, no later than five working days prior to the commencement date.  If you have any queries please call 433082.

Getting things done … City Road/Logie Street junction

The yellow box safety markings at the City Road/Logie Street junction are very worn and I raised this some time ago with the City Council.    

I have now received an update from the Roads Maintenance Partnership as follows:

“An order to re-paint the yellow box markings at this junction was raised some time ago.  However due to a combination of weather, other lining commitments, a back-log with lining works and the traffic management necessary in order to be able to carry out the works at this junction, there has been a delay in this work being done. 

In addition, the carriageway surface is displaying some signs of wear and it is likely that some patching/repairs will be required before the lining is refreshed.

An inspection to ascertain the extent of the works is to be carried out in the near future and more information should be available after this has taken place.”

Proposed roadworks on Logie Street

** This article was updated on 4th October to reflect a change in the direction of the roadworks – the road will be closed northbound, not southbound **


The City Council has advised of the following roadworks on Sunday 17th October in the part of Logie Street immediately north of the West End Ward boundary with Lochee, but as this road is well-used by West End residents, I felt it useful to update residents :


THE DUNDEE CITY COUNCIL AS TRAFFIC AUTHORITY being satisfied that traffic on the road should be prohibited by reason of Scottish Water Ironwork repair works being carried out HEREBY PROHIBIT the driving of any vehicle in a northbound direction in Logie Street (between Ancrum Road and Loons Road), Dundee.
This notice comes into effect on Sunday 17 October 2010 for 1 day.
Pedestrian thoroughfare will be maintained.
Alternative routes for vehicles are available via Ancrum Road/Charleston Drive/Arran Drive/South Road/A923 Coupar Angus Road.
For further information contact (01382) 433168.

Bus services again …

There has been a great deal of concern recently about some of the recent bus service changes – and in particular in the West End – the 11/12 service.

As I reported earlier this week, I am meeting with National Express Dundee (along with representatives of the Community Spirit Action Group and fellow councillors) about this issue. The meeting has been arranged for 11th August.

However, I now highlight another couple of bus issues raised recently:

* Firstly, I have raised with the City Council the need for more accessible buses on Stagecoach Strathtay Service 69, following a complaint from a constituent about being unable to assist her elderly mother onto the bus as there was no low-floor access. Given that this service is a City Council subsidised service and serves communities with many elderly folk, the need for accessible buses on the route is important.

* Secondly, the recent National Express Dundee bus service changes have created a problem for early morning users of the 17 service as the first bus does not arrive into Ninewells Hospital until 6.25am – 10 minutes after many staff shifts start. I wrote to National Express Dundee about this and received the following reply :

“Dear Fraser

I refer to your recent email to Lawrence regarding some ancillary and domestic staff at Ninewells Hospital who have found the changes in the early morning difficult.

From Whitfield we have a No. 15 service which leaves at 0505 arriving into Whitehall Street at 0541 and currently they can then catch a No. 22 service leaving Whitehall at 0548 which arrives at the Hospital at 0603. An option which we may be able to explore to enable the staff, if there is a demand, would be to alter the timings every so slightly of the 5B which currently arrives in Whitehall at 0540 to sit back for a minute or so until the No. 15 arrives which would mean an arrival time at the Hospital at approx. 0552.

I appreciate that they no longer have a through bus from Whitfield but the decision was taken to withdraw the 17 as we had both the 17 and 22 services both travelling towards the hospital at the same time and we were unable to keep running both.

I hope this gives you enough information to respond to your constituents.”

I have responded :

“Thanks; this is helpful & I would certainly suggest that your proposal with the 5B is worth exploring as it may help some, but it doesn’t actually address the issue raised by my constituents who are people west of the city centre on the 17 route who are some distance away from the 22 route and a long way away from the 5B (eg people who live in Lochee Road/Logie Street).

Having spoken with my constituents again, there are potentially 2 solutions – either would work :

a) Is it the case that the very first 15 from Summerfield Avenue (0505) leaves Whitehall Street at 0541 “out of service” in order to become the 17 that leaves Ninewells going back to the City Centre at 0548? My constituents understand this may be the case. If so, if it left Summerfield Avenue just a few minutes earlier, could it not travel to Ninewells as a 17 ‘in service’ the whole way?

b) The alternative would be for the second bus leaving Summerfield Avenue at 0530 (that does run all the way through to Ninewells Hospital) to simply leave ten minutes earlier as it would then reach Ninewells in time for the start of ancillary and domestic staff shifts at 0615.

Either solution would align the buses running with shift patterns of the staff and I’d be grateful if National Express Dundee could consider these suggestions – many thanks. I am happy to discuss these further with Lawrence when we meet re the 11/12 service on the 11th August.”